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		<title>By: insight broadband</title>
		<link>http://blog.centresource.com/2005/04/30/referrercomment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-228334</link>
		<dc:creator>insight broadband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 10:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;insight broadband...&lt;/strong&gt;

Even the gurus will agree with what is being said here. I am glad I found it....</description>
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<p>Even the gurus will agree with what is being said here. I am glad I found it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://blog.centresource.com/2005/04/30/referrercomment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-146622</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Referrer SPAM is an example of humanity using technology to attack humanity– shoot ourselves in the foot, if you will .Can there be legitimate commercial track backs? Unlike commercial email where there are subscriptions, track backs are open for everyone by design. What if you were posting about “spamming blogs link ” and you got a single track back advertising “spamming blogs link ” for sale. Would that be spam? What if they actually linked to the page so that it was a 100% legitimate track back?
I delete hundreds of track back spam every couple of days.i also got some useful help a valuable site on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anti-spam-info.com&quot; title=&quot;Spam Filtering&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Refer-spam, Comment Spam, Anti-Spam&lt;/a&gt; It is a big problem, but I think the question of acceptable commercial track backs is a valid one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referrer SPAM is an example of humanity using technology to attack humanity– shoot ourselves in the foot, if you will .Can there be legitimate commercial track backs? Unlike commercial email where there are subscriptions, track backs are open for everyone by design. What if you were posting about “spamming blogs link ” and you got a single track back advertising “spamming blogs link ” for sale. Would that be spam? What if they actually linked to the page so that it was a 100% legitimate track back?<br />
I delete hundreds of track back spam every couple of days.i also got some useful help a valuable site on <a  href="http://www.anti-spam-info.com" title="Spam Filtering" rel="nofollow">Refer-spam, Comment Spam, Anti-Spam</a> It is a big problem, but I think the question of acceptable commercial track backs is a valid one.</p>
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		<title>By: CentreSource: Blog &#187; Command and Control</title>
		<link>http://blog.centresource.com/2005/04/30/referrercomment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>CentreSource: Blog &#187; Command and Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] able botnet which is then sold to the highest bidder, for wonderful things from hacking to referer and comment spam. 	Almost all of the comment/referer spam I get comes from  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] able botnet which is then sold to the highest bidder, for wonderful things from hacking to referer and comment spam. 	Almost all of the comment/referer spam I get comes from  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wage</title>
		<link>http://blog.centresource.com/2005/04/30/referrercomment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 20:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
So here is my question. Can there be legitimate commercial trackbacks? Unlike commercial email where there are subscriptions, trackbacks are open for everyone by design. What if you were posting about “the purple pill” and you got a single trackback advertising “the purple pill” for sale. Would that be spam? What if they actually linked to the page so that it was a 100% legitimate trackback?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is a tricky one.. I think this is more just an issue of etiquette. There&#039;s a disagreement among a lot of bloggers as to when and when not to use trackback -- i.e., is it appropriate to send a trackback ping without actually linking to the URL you pinged. I think unless the URL being pinged is explicitly designed to aggregate content, you should actually link to the URL you are pinging -- it facilitates the &quot;you scratch my back, I&#039;ll scratch yours&quot; feedback mechanism in trackback pings.

So, to use your &quot;purple pill&quot; example, I don&#039;t think it would be appropriate if the ping was from a URL that was nothing more than an advertisement for the purple pill, because it adds nothing to the URL being pinged and doesn&#039;t involve a thread of conversation. That said, I think it&#039;s really just very context sensitive. For example, if someone were to come up with the One True Solution to referer spam, I wouldn&#039;t see any problem with them pinging this URL, even if they didn&#039;t link to it directly.

True spam of course is not really relevant to these nuanced discussions of etiquette, though, because there&#039;s &lt;b&gt;no&lt;/b&gt; content analysis going on. They are just spamming their URLs to as many places at once.

I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any real problem with commercial-oriented trackbacking as long as it a) doesn&#039;t overwhelm or clutter up the post being pinged unecessarily, and b) there&#039;s an indication that there was some forethought behind the ping -- i.e. there&#039;s an obvious contextual link between the URL being pinged and the URL offered.</description>
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So here is my question. Can there be legitimate commercial trackbacks? Unlike commercial email where there are subscriptions, trackbacks are open for everyone by design. What if you were posting about “the purple pill” and you got a single trackback advertising “the purple pill” for sale. Would that be spam? What if they actually linked to the page so that it was a 100% legitimate trackback?
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<p>This is a tricky one.. I think this is more just an issue of etiquette. There&#8217;s a disagreement among a lot of bloggers as to when and when not to use trackback &#8212; i.e., is it appropriate to send a trackback ping without actually linking to the URL you pinged. I think unless the URL being pinged is explicitly designed to aggregate content, you should actually link to the URL you are pinging &#8212; it facilitates the &#8220;you scratch my back, I&#8217;ll scratch yours&#8221; feedback mechanism in trackback pings.</p>
<p>So, to use your &#8220;purple pill&#8221; example, I don&#8217;t think it would be appropriate if the ping was from a URL that was nothing more than an advertisement for the purple pill, because it adds nothing to the URL being pinged and doesn&#8217;t involve a thread of conversation. That said, I think it&#8217;s really just very context sensitive. For example, if someone were to come up with the One True Solution to referer spam, I wouldn&#8217;t see any problem with them pinging this URL, even if they didn&#8217;t link to it directly.</p>
<p>True spam of course is not really relevant to these nuanced discussions of etiquette, though, because there&#8217;s <b>no</b> content analysis going on. They are just spamming their URLs to as many places at once.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any real problem with commercial-oriented trackbacking as long as it a) doesn&#8217;t overwhelm or clutter up the post being pinged unecessarily, and b) there&#8217;s an indication that there was some forethought behind the ping &#8212; i.e. there&#8217;s an obvious contextual link between the URL being pinged and the URL offered.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://blog.centresource.com/2005/04/30/referrercomment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 19:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason for referer spam is that several blog packages used to enable a &quot;top referrers&quot; sidebar plugin by default.  The idea was to know who was linking to you, but it was too easily abused.  I jst realized a little bit ago that the blog I set up for my &lt;a href=&quot;http://sabrina.tekzen.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wife&lt;/a&gt; had it enabled and was giving her good page rank to the spammers.

So here is my question.  Can there be legitimate commercial trackbacks?  Unlike commercial email where there are subscriptions, trackbacks are open for everyone by design.  What if you were posting about &quot;the purple pill&quot; and you got a single trackback advertising &quot;the purple pill&quot; for sale.  Would that be spam?  What if they actually linked to the page so that it was a 100% legitimate trackback?

I delete hundreds of trackback spam every couple of days.  It is a big problem, but  I think the question of acceptable commercial trackbacks is a valid one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason for referer spam is that several blog packages used to enable a &#8220;top referrers&#8221; sidebar plugin by default.  The idea was to know who was linking to you, but it was too easily abused.  I jst realized a little bit ago that the blog I set up for my <a  href="http://sabrina.tekzen.net" rel="nofollow">wife</a> had it enabled and was giving her good page rank to the spammers.</p>
<p>So here is my question.  Can there be legitimate commercial trackbacks?  Unlike commercial email where there are subscriptions, trackbacks are open for everyone by design.  What if you were posting about &#8220;the purple pill&#8221; and you got a single trackback advertising &#8220;the purple pill&#8221; for sale.  Would that be spam?  What if they actually linked to the page so that it was a 100% legitimate trackback?</p>
<p>I delete hundreds of trackback spam every couple of days.  It is a big problem, but  I think the question of acceptable commercial trackbacks is a valid one.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy The Blogging Poet</title>
		<link>http://blog.centresource.com/2005/04/30/referrercomment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy The Blogging Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 13:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was railing against Referrer SPAM over a year ago and no one seemed to understand what I was talking about, I&#039;m glad to finally find someone who does.

I think the biggest danger posed by Referrer SPAM is the loss of commercial value it brings to not just blogs but all websites. After all, until the &#039;bots start shopping, advertisers are only going to be interested in human eye balls. In other words: when an advertiser asks me, &quot;How many page views do you get each month?&quot; that advertiser isn&#039;t wanting to know how many &#039;bots read my site, but how many people read my site. Referrer SPAM is an example of humanity using technology to attack humanity-- shoot ourselves in the foot, if you will. Interestingly enough, those who use Referrer SPAM will also see a devaluation of their own websites as more and more idiots take up its use.

Such morons we&#039;ve become as we bow to the technology we&#039;ve created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was railing against Referrer SPAM over a year ago and no one seemed to understand what I was talking about, I&#8217;m glad to finally find someone who does.</p>
<p>I think the biggest danger posed by Referrer SPAM is the loss of commercial value it brings to not just blogs but all websites. After all, until the &#8216;bots start shopping, advertisers are only going to be interested in human eye balls. In other words: when an advertiser asks me, &#8220;How many page views do you get each month?&#8221; that advertiser isn&#8217;t wanting to know how many &#8216;bots read my site, but how many people read my site. Referrer SPAM is an example of humanity using technology to attack humanity&#8211; shoot ourselves in the foot, if you will. Interestingly enough, those who use Referrer SPAM will also see a devaluation of their own websites as more and more idiots take up its use.</p>
<p>Such morons we&#8217;ve become as we bow to the technology we&#8217;ve created.</p>
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		<title>By: My Quiet Life &#187; referer/comment spam</title>
		<link>http://blog.centresource.com/2005/04/30/referrercomment-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>My Quiet Life &#187; referer/comment spam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eferer/comment spam 	Filed under: geek &#8212; Chris @ 2:16 pm  	 	 			I&#039;ve put together a summary post on the growing problem of comment/referer spam over at the CentreBlog. [...]</description>
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